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DS-5M

ДС-5М

Soviet daylight colour that kept reds red.

Planned media

Soviet daylight cine colour where reds stay red. Original vs Ashigrain.

DS-5M, Svema TsP-8R

stock
DS-5M
mode
Print
print_film
Svema TsP-8R
film_format
Super 35 (4-perf)

At a glance

Exposure index
40
Daylight
Introduced
by 1979
Process
Svema/Tasma cold colour-negative development (18-22 °C)
Prints on
TsP-8R
Svema TsP-8R

About the film

DS-5M (ДС-5М) was the Soviet daylight colour negative for natural daylight or arc light, made both by Svema in Shostka and by Tasma in Kazan.

At the national contest for the best use of domestic colour negative, films shot on it outnumbered those on the tungsten LN stocks roughly two to one until 1983, when the two were used about equally. That year Khristofor Triandafilov's Karakum, 45° in the Shade, shot entirely on Tasma DS-5M, became the first film wholly on Tasma stock to win a prize there. Alexei Rodionov shot Elem Klimov's Come and See (1985) roughly half on Kodak 5293 and half on DS-5M and LN-8, and found the Soviet stocks coarser and grainier, with more saturated colour and bluish blacks. He had the Kodak footage force-processed to bring it closer to them, though in some scenes DS-5M simply lacked the speed. On Torpedo Bombers (1983), Vladimir Ilyin pushed its development to rate it at about 120 GOST units and judged it very good but unstable from batch to batch. Vilen Kalyuta shot all the studio scenes of Two Hussars on DS-5M under tungsten lamps and said he preferred it to the LN stocks, which he found coarser. Writing in 1997, Leonid Konovalov described a red banner shot on it in winter that really was red, and noted that its mask looks almost pure yellow, so its cyan dye is in effect unmasked.

Sources for this history
  1. Коновалов Л. Как разобраться в кинопленках (1997), Internet Archive
  2. Артюшин Л. Ф., Барский И. А., Винокур В. А. Справочник кинооператора (1999), Internet Archive
  3. Гордийчук И. Б., Пелль В. Г. Справочник кинооператора (1979), Internet Archive
  4. Егоров В. Об итогах VIII Всесоюзного конкурса на лучшее использование отечественных цветных негативных кинопленок (Техника кино и телевидения, 1983, № 9), Техника кино и телевидения
  5. Триандафилов Х. В. Съемки в Каракумах (Техника кино и телевидения, 1984, № 5), Техника кино и телевидения
  6. Ильин В. В. Операторская работа в фильме «Торпедоносцы» (Техника кино и телевидения, 1984, № 1), Техника кино и телевидения
  7. Творчество оператора — от драматургии до техники (Техника кино и телевидения, 1985, № 12), Техника кино и телевидения
  8. Ермакова Е. Фильм — творчество коллективное (Техника кино и телевидения, 1986, № 1), Техника кино и телевидения
  9. Ермакова Е. Ю. Практическая магия кинематографа. Часть II (2024), Московский государственный психолого-педагогический университет

The look

DS-5M is a Soviet daylight colour negative for natural daylight or arc light. Cinematographers found it coarser and grainier than Kodak, with saturated colour and bluish blacks, and Leonid Konovalov found that its reds stayed red rather than turning orange like the tungsten LN films'. It prints on Svema TsP-8R by default.

Planned media

Reds that stay red on a Soviet negative.

DS-5M, Svema TsP-8R

stock
DS-5M
mode
Print
print_film
Svema TsP-8R
film_format
Super 35 (4-perf)

Planned media

Daylight colour printed on Svema TsP-8R.

DS-5M, Svema TsP-8R

stock
DS-5M
mode
Print
print_film
Svema TsP-8R
film_format
Super 35 (4-perf)

Best for

  1. Soviet-era daylight exteriors
  2. Red subjects in daylight
  3. Grainy, saturated war-film colour

Among the films

FilmSpeedGrain, RMS σD · lower is finerYears made
Technicolor Process IITechnicolor Process II−1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 16−1⅓ stops.0201922
DS-5MDS-5Mthis filmEI 40this film.0051979
Kodak Aerochrome III 1443Kodak Aerochrome III 1443same speed vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 40same speed.0242001
Kodak Vision3 50DKodak Vision3 50DMade since 2011, in production · +⅓ stop vs DS-5M · grain the sameEI 50+⅓ stop.0052011–
Fujifilm Velvia 50Fujifilm Velvia 50Made since 2007, in production · +⅓ stop vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 50+⅓ stop.0092007–
Agfa Agfacolor Ultra 50Agfa Agfacolor Ultra 50+⅓ stop vs DS-5M · grain the sameEI 50+⅓ stop.0051995
Kodak Kodachrome 64Kodak Kodachrome 64Made 1974–2009 · +⅔ stop vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 64+⅔ stop.0121974–2009
Fujifilm Fujichrome 64T Type IIFujifilm Fujichrome 64T Type II+⅔ stop vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 64+⅔ stop.0102002
Ilford Ortho PlusIlford Ortho PlusMade since 1997, in production · +1 stop vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 80+1 stop.0151997–
Polaroid Type 669Polaroid Type 669+1 stop vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 80+1 stop.0241981
Svema LN-9Svema LN-9+1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 95+1⅓ stops.0071988
Fujifilm Astia 100FFujifilm Astia 100FMade 2003–2012 · +1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 100+1⅓ stops.0082003–12
Agfa Agfachrome RSX II 100Agfa Agfachrome RSX II 100+1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 100+1⅓ stops.0121998
Agfa Agfacolor Optima II 100Agfa Agfacolor Optima II 100+1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain the sameEI 100+1⅓ stops.0051998
Kodak Ektar 100Kodak Ektar 100Made since 2008, in production · +1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain the sameEI 100+1⅓ stops.0052008–
Kodak Ektachrome 100DKodak Ektachrome 100DMade since 2018, in production · +1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 100+1⅓ stops.0142018–
Fomapan R 100Fomapan R 100Made since 1980, in production · +1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 100+1⅓ stops.0221980–
NK-2NK-2+1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 100+1⅓ stops.0131980
Fujifilm FP-100CFujifilm FP-100CMade 1992–2016 · +1⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 100+1⅓ stops.0231992–2016
Eastman Color Negative 5247Eastman Color Negative 5247+1⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain the sameEI 125+1⅔ stops.0051983
Agfa Agfacolor Portrait XPS 160Agfa Agfacolor Portrait XPS 160+2 stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 160+2 stops.0071995
Kodak Vision3 200TKodak Vision3 200TMade since 2010, in production · +2⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 200+2⅓ stops.0072010–
Kodak Tri-X Reversal 7266Kodak Tri-X Reversal 7266Made since 2003, in production · +2⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 200+2⅓ stops.0252003–
Kodak Vision3 250DKodak Vision3 250DMade since 2009, in production · +2⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 250+2⅔ stops.0072009–
Fujifilm Eterna 250DFujifilm Eterna 250DMade 2005–2013 · +2⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain finerEI 250+2⅔ stops.0042005–13
Kodak Aerocolor IV 2460Kodak Aerocolor IV 2460Made since 2009, in production · +2⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 250+2⅔ stops.0132009–
Eastman Double-X 5222Eastman Double-X 5222Made since 1960, in production · +2⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 250+2⅔ stops.0151960–
Fujifilm Pro 400HFujifilm Pro 400HMade 2004–2021 · +3⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain finerEI 400+3⅓ stops.0042004–21
Kodak Vision3 500TKodak Vision3 500TMade since 2007, in production · +3⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 500+3⅔ stops.0072007–
Kodak Vision2 Expression 500TKodak Vision2 Expression 500T+3⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 500+3⅔ stops.0092003
Fujifilm Eterna 500Fujifilm Eterna 500Made 2004–2013 · +3⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain finerEI 500+3⅔ stops.0042004–13
Fujifilm Eterna Vivid 500Fujifilm Eterna Vivid 500Made 2009–2013 · +3⅔ stops vs DS-5M · grain finerEI 500+3⅔ stops.0042009–13
Kodak Portra 800Kodak Portra 800Made since 2000, in production · +4⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 800+4⅓ stops.0082000–
Kodak T-Max P3200Kodak T-Max P3200Made since 1988, in production · +4⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 800+4⅓ stops.0191988–
Kodak Ektachrome P1600Kodak Ektachrome P1600+5⅓ stops vs DS-5M · grain coarserEI 1600+5⅓ stops.0381999

Science & sources

DS-5M calibration chart: OriginalDS-5M calibration chart: Processed
Synthetic test chart (grey ramp, ColorChecker, hue sweep, point highlights) before and after the full Ashigrain pipeline: print branch on Svema TsP-8R, Super 35 4-perf, default controls, exposure +0.35 stops to match the original's mid-grey, frame 0.

A Soviet daylight colour negative cine film. Its curves are reconstructed from Soviet specifications and handbooks (Konovalov 1997 and others), not digitised from a datasheet. Its cyan dye is LN-9's, which the literature gives as the same dye.

Response curves and the evidence behind the model

Compare manufacturer data with the Ashigrain model on the same axes. This shows the calibration to source curves; comparison with photographed film is a separate question.

Characteristic response

Density against log H (lux-seconds) for channels R, G, B. R circles, G squares, B triangles, N diamonds; filled markers and solid lines are digitised, open markers and dashed lines are simulated: digitised and simulated.−4.0−3.0−2.0−1.00.01.0log H (lux-seconds)0.00.51.01.52.02.5Density

RMS granularity

RMS granularity (σD) against Density for channels R, G, B. R circles, G squares, B triangles, N diamonds; filled markers and solid lines are datasheet-based, open markers and dashed lines are simulated: datasheet-based and simulated.0.20.40.60.81.01.21.41.6Density0.00.00250.0050.00750.010.0125RMS granularity (σD)

Density variation (σD). Where the datasheet gives a single grain value, the response away from that point is an approximation.

ChannelDensityDatasheet-based σDModel σD
R0.30.0047170.004907
G0.30.0050250.005238
B0.30.0097950.010167
R0.60.0046370.004823
G0.60.0043350.004519
B0.60.0092010.009551
R10.0039510.00411
G10.0048380.005043
B10.008370.008688
B1.50.0046230.004798

Model limits

These images show the film model in use. Spectral response, lighting and viewing conditions include approximations, while halation, bloom, grain size, weave and flicker are not fully measured for each film. A real film capture also depends on development and print timing.

  • ДС-5М has no datasheet with curves. Its characteristic curves, spectral sensitivities and magenta and yellow dyes are reconstructed from Soviet specifications and handbooks (Konovalov 1997; Гордийчук & Пелль 1979; Иофис 1980; Артюшин 1999), not digitized from a datasheet.
  • Its cyan dye is the ЛН-9 cyan digitized from Konovalov 1997, which gives the same dye for both films. Fog and mask densities are taken from ЛН-8 as a proxy.
  • No MTF is published for ДС-5М, only a minimum resolving power of 58 lines/mm. Its MTF is proxied from Kodak Vision3 50D (5203).
  • No granularity is published for ДС-5М. Grain is proxied from Kodak Vision3 50D (5203), so the granularity values shown are that film's.
  • The sources disagree on the design light, 5500 K or 6500 K; 5500 K is used.
  • Because its sensitivities are reconstructed, printer-light timing on this film can differ from the full spectral calculation by up to 0.64 printer points, and colour under custom lights follows the spectral path less closely than for most films.
  • Custom lighting spectra, camera metering and the spectral reflectance inferred from fixed-white-balance footage are modeled assumptions, not measurements of this film.
  • Colour-print timing and scan balance under arbitrary lighting are modeled. Scanner colour balance has no standard physical unit.
  • The spectral transmission of the conversion filter the source prescribes (80A for daylight films under tungsten, 85 for tungsten films in daylight) is modeled, not supplied by the source.
  • Individual dye amounts, layer interactions and push/pull behaviour are approximated where the datasheet provides no calibration. Grain size is assumed; published RMS granularity does not specify dye-cloud size.
  • Characteristic response outside the published exposure range is an extrapolation, not measured film data.
  • Halation strength, radius and layer weights are not quantified by the datasheet. The effect of removing antihalation and the bloom response are also approximations.
  • The printer lamp and filter spectra and the Status A grey aim used in this preview are approximated; the source does not publish the required spectral or laboratory aim data.

Film guide: assumptions and practical choices

Sources

  1. Exposure index: Артюшин Л. Ф., Барский И. А., Винокур В. А. Справочник кинооператора (1999), 1999 edition, p. 114
  2. Process: Артюшин Л. Ф., Барский И. А., Винокур В. А. Справочник кинооператора (1999), 1999 edition, p. 117
  3. Reconstructed: Гордийчук И. Б., Пелль В. Г. Справочник кинооператора (1979), 1979 edition, p. 188

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